Violence Is Not The Answer…


Let me reassert my position on this violence that’s going on against legislators…it needs to stop.  The citizens do not need to resort to this to get their point across.  It will come across in November.  All these threats and vile acts can only cause trouble.  The key is handing them defeat and let them wonder what happened.  I am re-posting this story from, because Tea Party people need to remember that we can accomplish much by doing things the right way than the wrong.  I do, however, wish to point out how out of touch they are thinking that a backlash wouldn’t happen – especially the last sentence from the Southern Law Poverty Center….

WASHINGTON (AP) – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday condemned vandalism and threats against members of Congress who voted to overhaul the U.S. health care system. Republicans joining in, telling people to calm down and saying they too were being targeted in an increasingly venomous political atmosphere.”I don’t want this to be a distraction” to the work of Congress, Pelosi said. But she also asserted that such violence and threats of reprisal have “no place in a civil debate in our country” and must be rejected.


Her sentiments were echoed minutes later by House Republican leader John Boehner, who said that while many are angry over the health care measure, “threats and violence should not be part of a political debate.”

At least four Democratic offices in New York, Arizona and Kansas were struck and at least 10 members of Congress have reported some sort of threats, including obscenity-laced phone messages, congressional leaders have said. No arrests have been reported.

The House’s No. 3 Republican, Eric Cantor of Virginia, said at a brief news conference Thursday that someone fired a bullet through a window of his campaign office in Richmond and he has received threatening e-mails.

Responding to Democrats who have accused Republicans of being too slow to condemn the attacks against lawmakers, he stressed that security threats are not a partisan issue. “To use such threats as political weapons is reprehensible,” he said.

The actions against Democrats have included racial slurs thrown at black lawmakers, e-mail and phone death threats and bricks thrown through regional office windows.

Ohio Rep. John Boccieri, one of eight Democrats who switched to “yes” on the most recent House vote, said he had received threats. “Having flown missions in and out of Afghanistan, I know what it’s like to be in harm’s way. But I never imagined serving in Congress could feel the same,” said Boccieri, a major in the Air Force reserve. He did not elaborate on the threats.

E-mails sent to Rep. Suzanne Kosmas, D-Fla., another member who switcher her vote, urged her to commit suicide and said she and her family should rot in hell. Another called her a “two-timing, backstabbing whore.”

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat and chairwoman of an influential House committee, said someone had left her a voice mail that used the word “snipers.”

On the Republican side, the office of Rep. Jean Schmidt of Ohio released a tape of a profanity-laced phone message in which the caller said Republicans were racists and, referring to an accident two years ago when Schmidt was hit by a car while jogging, said, “you should have broke your back, b… .”

Some of the anger spilled over in a flood of threat-filled phone and fax messages to the office of Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich. Stupak vowed to oppose the health care package unless given greater assurance that it would not allow federal funding of elective abortions. He voted in favor after the administration agreed.

Stupak’s office released some of the messages, declining further comment.

“I hope you bleed … (get) cancer and die,” one male caller told the congressman between curses.

A fax with the title “Defecating on Stupak” carried a picture of a gallows with “Bart (SS) Stupak” on it and a noose attached. It was captioned, “All Baby Killers come to unseemly ends Either by the hand of man or by the hand of God.”

And in Virginia, someone cut a propane line leading to a grill at the Charlottesville home of Rep. Tom Perriello’s brother after the address was posted online by activists angry about the health care overhaul. Perriello also said a threatening letter was sent to his brother’s house.

Senate Sergeant at Arms Terry Gainer told The Associated Press Thursday that there was “no evidence that annoying, harassing or threatening telephone calls or emails are coordinated. Regrettably though, bloggers and twitters seem to feed off each other, leaving little room for creativity.”

At the news conference, Pelosi said it is “important for us to be able to express ourselves freely, not to diminish that in any way, but also to hit a standard that says some of the actions … must be rejected.”

But the California Democrat also said she did not “subscribe to the theory that these acts sprang from the comments of my colleagues.”

The vandalism and threats surprised a researcher at a think tank that monitors extremist groups.

“I think it is astounding that we are seeing this wave of vigilantism,” said Mark Potok of the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.


Legislators mull Tennessee Health Freedom Act in wake of new federal law

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These guys in the committee need to get on the ball, because 35 other states are leaving them behind, along with the citizens of Tennessee.

Legislators mull Tennessee Health Freedom Act in wake of new federal law

Tennessee House Commerce subcommittee weighed in on Congress’ approval of health care reform by considering the “Tennessee Health Freedom Act” on Wednesday.

The amended legislation says “it will be the public policy of this state for Tennesseans to be able to choose their mode of securing health care services without penalty or threat of penalty by the federal government.”

A companion bill passed last month in the state Senate.

The health care reform bill signed by President Barack Obama on Tuesday will require most Americans to have health insurance, add millions of people to the Medicaid rolls, and subsidize private coverage for low- and middle-income people at a cost to the government of $938 billion over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

The proposed version of the Tennessee bill, sponsored in the House by state Rep. Mike Bell, R-Riceville, called on Tennessee Attorney General Robert Cooper to seek and preserve the rights of state residents.

The House Commerce Industrial Impact Subcommittee heard Bell’s bill and stuck to its practice of deferring amended legislation for one week despite a large number of anti-health care reform activists being present.( committee members don’t make the mistake that the federal legislators did……not listening to you constituents.)

“This bill’s intention is to be a tool to protect Tennesseans who do not want to participate in the new federal program…” Bell said of the bill. “This is an unprecedented move by the federal government to mandate individuals purchase a product. … We’re not talking about another Medicare program where people pay a dedicated tax to support a program. … This has never been done in the history of our country.”

Bell quoted Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen, who when asked if Tennessee will challenge health care reform, said: “I think it is an uphill battle. I will be honest with you in terms of the Constitution, but it is a legitimate issue, and I have no complaints against attorneys general who are putting it forward.”

In a statement released on Tuesday, Cooper said he has instructed his staff to begin a thorough and detailed analysis of the health care reform bill.

“As always in this office, a decision to file a lawsuit will be made after consultation with the affected departments of state government, careful deliberation regarding legal precedents, and only upon a determination that litigation is proper, prudent and timely. In the meantime, as Tennesseans have long respected, this office will be conscientious to avoid engagement on ongoing political debates,” Cooper said in the statement.

Tennessee Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey, a Blountville Republican running for governor this year, urged Cooper to make preparations for “protective legal action” against the federal measure.

Individual lawmakers in at least 36 state legislatures are attempting to “seek, limit, alter or oppose” mandates to purchase health insurance, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL). In 29 of those states, proposals include a constitutional amendment by a ballot question.

NCSL said 13 states, including Tennessee, are attempting to amend state law with a statute titled “health insurance not required.” Virginia GOP Gov. Bob McDonnell signed Virginia’s health freedom law on Wednesday.

The health care reform measure signed by Obama would require most Americans to have health insurance by 2014 or pay a penalty.(or go to jail for a year if the fine is not paid.) Subsidies from the federal government would help people pay for private insurance sold through new state-based insurance exchanges starting in 2014, according to NCSL’s summary of the federal health care reform legislation.

For more information go to The Tennessee bill’s number is HB 3433.

55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

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This is no surprise……since the majority were against this bill in the first place. So now the more it comes out about all the crap in this bill, then people want it repealed.

55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

Just before the House of Representatives passed sweeping health care legislation last Sunday, 41% of voters nationwide favored the legislation while 54% were opposed. Now that President Obama has signed the legislation into law, most voters want to see it repealed.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey, conducted on the first two nights after the president signed the bill, shows that 55% favor repealing the legislation. Forty-two percent (42%) oppose repeal. Those figures include 46% who Strongly Favor repeal and 35% who Strongly Oppose it.

In terms of Election 2010, 52% say they’d vote for a candidate who favors repeal over one who does not. Forty-one percent (41%) would cast their vote for someone who opposes repeal.

Not surprisingly, Republicans overwhelmingly favor repeal while most Democrats are opposed. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 59% favor repeal, and 35% are against it.

Most senior citizens (59%) also favor repeal. Earlier, voters over 65 had been more opposed to the health care plan than younger adults. Seniors use the health care system more than anyone else.

A number of states are already challenging the constitutionality of that requirement in court, and polling data released earlier shows that 49% of voters nationwide would like their state to sue the federal government over the health care bill.

Rasmussen Reports will track support for the repeal effort on a weekly basis for as long as it remains a significant issue. The next update will be released Monday morning.

Sixty percent (60%) of likely voters believe the new law will increase the federal budget deficit. Only 19% disagree and say it will not. Twelve percent (12%) think it will have no impact on the deficit.

Throughout the legislative debate, advocates of the reform expressed frustration about the fact that voters believe it will increase the deficit. Many, including the president, pointed to Congressional Budget Office projections to argue that the plan will actually reduce the deficit. However, voters are skeptical of the official government projection, and 81% believe the actual cost of the program will be higher than projected.

Voters have consistently said that reducing the federal budget deficit is a higher priority than health care reform. They also believe that deficit reduction is the goal Obama is least likely to achieve as president.

Overall, 41% of voters believe the new health care legislation will be good for the country, while 49% believe it will be bad for the country.

While 64% of Mainstream voters think the health care plan will be bad for the country, 90% of the Political Class see its passage as a good thing.

Twenty-six percent (26%) of voters nationwide say the legislation will have a positive impact on them personally, while 43% expect a negative impact. Twenty-five percent (25%) say the massive overhaul of the health care system will have no impact on them personally.

A total of 24% believe it will be good for the country and good for them personally. Forty percent (40%) believe it will be bad for the country and bad for them personally.

Generally speaking, the partisan and demographic breakdowns have shifted little since passage of the health care bill. Those groups who opposed the bill tend to support repeal and those who supported the bill oppose repeal.