Folks they are coming after the 2nd amendment and they start with things that seems logical, then later get the average person’s weapons as well. Don’t be fooled by them. As Steve has been saying for some time now, they are coming for America’s guns at some point. And it starts with something like this that seems rational and logical.


A major defense-spending bill hit an unexpected bump on its journey through the U.S. Senate over an amendment on veterans’ gun rights, which devolved into a heated floor debate and foreshadows a potential battle over Democrats’ vows to tweak the filibuster rules in the clubby, traditionally collegial body.

Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican, wants veterans who have been deemed “mentally incompetent” to have their cases adjudicated by a judge — rather than the Department of Veterans Affairs, as happens currently — and argued that veterans who simply cannot support themselves financially are needlessly given the label and, as such, cannot buy or possess firearms.

“We’re not asking for anything big,” Mr. Coburn said Thursday evening on the Senate floor. “We’re just saying that if you’re going to take away the Second Amendment rights … they ought to have it adjudicated, rather than mandated by someone who’s unqualified to state that they should lose their rights.”

The late-night tussle served to pick at the scab of the ongoing debate over Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bid to reform the chamber’s filibuster rules to place limits on the minority party’s ability to hold up debate on legislation, however.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, objected to Mr. Coburn’s proposal once he found out it was part of a package of amendments to the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act the body was to vote on.

The measure that sparked last week’s late-night imbroglio is also part of a still-pending sportsman’s bill that the Senate declined to vote on last week. Similar legislation has been proposed in past years, and a bill introduced by Sen. Richard Burr, North Carolina Republican, and Sen. Jim Webb, Virginia Democrat, passed the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs unanimously in September.

The debate on the measure should not be about gun control, but about veterans’ mental health, said Tom Tarantino, senior legislative associate for Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.

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LLeonea day ago

If being mentally incompetent was just cause to deny the right to own firearms there’d be no lawfully armed Democrats in Congress…As it is, Senator Coburn is only asking that a judge make the determination based on the facts of each individual case. We should not allow temporary shell shock or battle fatigue to repeal the Second Amendment rights of any of our Veterans–for life–without due process. They ought to have their day in court before being penalized for their service to our country.

Most of the men returning from frontline service in World War II suffered some form of battle fatigue. We didn’t know much about it back then…And Vets rarely talked about it themselves. But the vast majority of them went on to live, love and prosper while raising their families without going bonkers and blasting away at anybody…Now that we do know much more about it–we should help our Vets–without stigmatizing them or classifying them as potential threats to society–without concrete evidence. I’m with Tom Coburn. Our Vets deserve better than this.